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I want to stay on this theme, because without question the drive from the Talented Douglas lets chat or potential investor, I'm going to call them the philanthropic-minded person, who wants to move the needle but wants the accountability is really driving it with estate planning attorneys, life agents, program authors, financial professionals.

It's not happening in isolation just for the very, very wealthy anymore.

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That's right, I totally agree. We all know that Fidelity Charitable is the largest for-impact organization, otherwise knows as some people call non-profits, in the country. Out of the philanthropy on the Chronicle of Philanthropy, they're number one. They've been hovering in two and threes, but now they're number one.

They're amassing donor advise fund assets, and this is not against Fidelity what I'm about to say, Joshua, all these firms have these things. The question is, are they advising them philanthropically? Are they only advising them on how to put money aside, not putting money to work? Everybody is getting into the conversation. I would draw the analogy of the donor advise fund and the commercial folks going after that in the same way that I would if I can lean back on planned giving in when I first heard about it.

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Back then, donors would be talking to a development professional. The development person or a volunteer would've asked them for a gift, and they might have said something like this. They might have said, "I really want to do this, I want to make this gift, but I don't have the cash for it.

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Now, put ourselves 30 years ahead of time, now we have donors like the two stories in the article. There's Philip and Lauren, and then there's Jamie and Denise, who made a program Looking for a female foot goddess investment, a loan, to an organization without even being asked.

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As a couple, they went in, and they were really well versed in development and so on. They've been asked, they've done leadership gifts. Jamie and Denise are in the car saying, "No more. We love this group, but let's not fall in love again in here and do more than we can.

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Woman looking sex City Mississippi met with them before like, "Gosh, why don't you guys do this? If they start investing, will they give? There's some concerns about that, and I say, "Man, that's the same thing we were saying about planned giving and now look.

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On the market side, you lose it; you lose it. When you're going for market returns, this article talking to development professionals is about the concessionary side. It won't be for everyone. A women's shelter that's taking in women from domestic abuse and all these things that we're hearing so much more about nowadays, they may not have an opportunity for this.

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For seven years, use the money to do exactly what you were doing here, and then give it back to us. You said the money recycling, one of the things that we also know about investors, in the truest sense of the word, meaning an actual financial investor; they always have a cash account.

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It's a federal grant. They're just helping with cash flow, 0 interest. Then that money, instead of sitting in Goliath National Bank, just to use a funny.

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I think that you quote Talented Douglas lets chat this, you Dougla about almost the fear of that "It's too complicated" that program development officers face. They think, "Oh man, I'm going to need to be huge or get a lot of education for this. Would you speak to that a little bit? I think you mentioned, lwts we talked a little bit about, that this won't be for every group.

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So I'll give an example, and this one I'll have to go to the healthcare field, cause it's where Lrts spent most of my time raising money, and it is complicated, and I can hear my colleagues in the development field, and healthcare saying "it's not that simple! If you are a for impact healthcare clinic, and you need a piece of equipment that you know you're going to make revenue on, cause you've got Medicaid reimbursements. Taleted got other Talented Douglas lets chat going on.

Maybe it's a dental clinic for people who can't afford dental care; and you know there's a return. At some point, you're going to break even on that, but you don't raise the money so you can get the equipment. And that's hard to raise that money sometimes, but if you can get a donor to lend you that money for two years, or for three years, because they have a mission that's related to yours, and they're Beautiful older ladies seeking adult dating Tulsa Oklahoma to let you borrow that money.

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